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BioNTech 'confident' it will meet Japan's COVID-19 vaccine demand

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Wealthy countries are spending a lot of money for the vaccines to acquire artificial herd immunity while in India 50% of the population are already contracted with the pandemic. They acquired the herd immunity without spending money.

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BioNTech is confideNT

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Wealthy countries are spending a lot of money for the vaccines to acquire artificial herd immunity while in India 50% of the population are already contracted with the pandemic. They acquired the herd immunity without spending money.

So are you saying wealthy countries shouldn't buy the vaccine?

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For me, no need for any vaccine, as I am not in a high risk group-I am not interested.

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@kurisupisu - That's not how vaccines work. Whatever group you belong to the more people who are vaccinated in the population, the fewer hosts the virus has to use.

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Whatever group you belong to the more people who are vaccinated in the population, the fewer hosts the virus has to use.

I thought it is widely understood the vaccine does not prevent people getting the virus and they are still able to transmit the virus to others, Every story I have read says this. A couple said it MIGHT reduce transmission but there is no evidence yet, What it supposedly is proven to do so far is prevent the people vaccinated getting seriously ill, which is very good if it does that. Thus it does not reduce hosts. As the statistics world wide in every country tell us people below 25 have an extremely low chance of getting seriously ill or dying from the virus. For children it is effectively 0. If this is the case that vaccinated people remain hosts to the virus I fail to see why vaccinations are necessary for low risk people. If I was such, or a parent considering my children, I most certainly would not want to be vaccinated with these essentially trial vaccines. What for?

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What a paradox of life,the overproud right wing government lead by the nippon kaigi desperately dependend on a vaccine produced by a gaijin company.

Maybe instead of wasting money in the last decade in weapons and invest more in social welfare Japan would be in a different situation as now.

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There are no clinical trials completed for vaccines of the UK, South African and NOW the Brazilian variant.

i personally won’t take a vaccine until it is proven after a few years. At a doctors meeting at my hospital last night, 20% of doctors will refuse to take it at this time.

i do however, strongly recommend over 70yrs and people with serious conditions (other than asthma, allergies etc) MUST take it. They have nothing to lose.

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At a doctors meeting at my hospital last night, 20% of doctors will refuse to take it at this time

so that means the 80% others will have it.. but you focus on the 20%, interesting thinking.

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I am confident I'll win the National Lottery. But I am absolutely not sure and personally I don't think I'll win, given the chances and situation

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For me, no need for any vaccine, as I am not in a high risk group-I am not interested.

I agree, but we should also keep in mind that those who are in the high-risk group are also at a higher risk of developing serious adverse effects to the vaccine, including death.

I thought it is widely understood the vaccine does not prevent people getting the virus and they are still able to transmit the virus to others, Every story I have read says this.

I agree. According to the trials, the vaccines reduce symptoms and you can still transmit the virus.

So which infected person is more likely to visit grandma? The unvaccinated infected person who will have symptoms and therefore probably decide to stay home? Or is it the vaccinated infected person who will not know they are infected and might even falsely believe they cannot get infected?

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For me, no need for any vaccine, as I am not in a high risk group-I am not interested.

fine, step aside one less in line for those that do want to take it

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I thought it is widely understood the vaccine does not prevent people getting the virus and they are still able to transmit the virus to others, Every story I have read says this

Try quoting from a few of those stories, saying that there is still no evidence of reduced transmission is completely different from saying there is no reduction of the transmission. You would be correct saying the first, and terribly wrong assuming the second.

 Thus it does not reduce hosts.

Again, that a conclusion that requires data, if a person gets infected and has the virus for 5 days instead of a couple of weeks while he is on the ICU that means the risk for others is vastly reduced. That would mean a reduction of hosts.

 I fail to see why vaccinations are necessary for low risk people.

You don't replace the low risk with another low risk with vaccination, you divide it. So if you have 1 in 200 chances of serious complications or death if you are young and healthy, vaccinated you would have now 1 in 4000, that is a perfectly logical reason to be vaccinated. Even if the risk for others would not be reduced (more likely it will).

There are no clinical trials completed for vaccines of the UK, South African and NOW the Brazilian variant.

There is no vaccines made with the new variants, and obviously the virus are not interesting in holding safety trials before infecting people, so no trials would have to planned for either case.

i do however, strongly recommend over 70yrs and people with serious conditions (other than asthma, allergies etc) MUST take it. They have nothing to lose.

Neither would anybody for whom the vaccine is recommended, and every person would gain a much reduced risk of complications.

 agree. According to the trials, the vaccines reduce symptoms and you can still transmit the virus.

That is incorrect, you may still transmit the virus, there is not enough information to conclude either thing, but even if the effect is equivalent to make the infected person asymptomatic that still means a reduction of 2/3 of the transmisibility.

So which infected person is more likely to visit grandma? The unvaccinated infected person who will have symptoms and therefore probably decide to stay home? Or is it the vaccinated infected person who will not know they are infected and might even falsely believe they cannot get infected?

Obviously the vaccinated person is less likely to do it, after all he is already showing an attitude of trust in science, he has the capacity to understand the vaccine is less risky than the natural infection and also he is doing his part trying to limit the spreading by safely contributing to herd immunity, all these are signs of someone that would avoid visiting a person of elevated risk, a person that willingly choose to be unvaccinated and got the disease is more likely to disregard the scientific consensus, have no empathy towards the vulnerable population and is not able to understand what is more risky for himself, much less for others.

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How much demand is there in Japan for a Covid-19 vaccine? Given how slowly Japan is moving to approve vaccines, the manufacturers must be thinking they can put Japan at the back of the line. Other countries are practically fighting over it. Japan is more like "hmm, give us more time to think about it, and we'll get back to you." With an attitude like that, don't expect any urgent deliveries.

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fine, step aside one less in line for those that do want to take it

Very well said.

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the manufacturers must be thinking they can put Japan at the back of the line. 

They can make sure of that by not applying for approval

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@Goodlucktoyou: That's fine. I'll have your doses then please.

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They said for this year as noted in the article, so they got 11 more months to go. Therefore most people will be able to get their vaccine in the winter of 2022.

And the freezers might be made by then.

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About 10% of the US population has received at least one shot, while in Japan the shots will not even start for another week or so. This is a failure of the Japanese government, plain and simple.

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