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U.S., Japan, South Korea agree to keep pressure on North Korea

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By Steve Holland and David Brunnstrom

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An agreement from South Korea right now under the Moon administration is meaningless. Moon's main political priority has been and continues to be appeasing Kim Jong Un. He put together the idiotic Trump-Kim show which accomplished absolutely nothing. He has escalated anti-Japan sentiment in South Korea to unprecedented levels. Perhaps we can trust South Korea's word when the next administration takes over.

https://apnews.com/article/9556c1456e6c4e10aae331b6c95a61a3

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U.S., Japan, South Korea agree to keep pressure on North Korea

Alternate tag line...

“North Korea agrees to keep pressure on US, Japan and South Korea.”

NK military costs...$75,000,000.

US/JP/SK costs $100,000,000,000

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NK military costs...$75,000,000.

DPRKs 2018 military budget was about $1.6 Billion USD. Not mentioned is the high cost of universal conscription with induction at age 17 and discharge at age 30. That takes most of the male population out of the workforce for the period of their military service, denies them access to a university education after high school and affects their ability to start a family afterwards.

https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/PRK/north-korea/military-spending-defense-budget

The cost for the US to maintain it's forces in South Korea is on the order of $1.2-$1.3 billion while the ROK defense budget is just over $50 billion, which includes the just under $1 billion in support for US forces.

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Yes keep up the pressure, it's a tried and true approach which has brought such great results...to increase weapons sales.

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The cost for the US to maintain it's forces in South Korea is on the order of $1.2-$1.3 billion 

Oh really?

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North Korea (Bukhan) has stated repeatedly that it will be willing to give up all nuclear ambitions if allowed to be treated as a free and equal nation in this world. BUT, NK is disobedient to the United States. It CANNOT be allowed to show such disdain for U.S. hegemony and, therefore, must be sat upon, stepped on, and generally treated as a pariah by psychopaths whose only ambition is DOMINANCE. The impossible to afford nuclear and missile programs starving NK are its only tool for getting the attention of the world to the conditions and oppressions heaped upon its independence. This is not to say that the people of NK are having a wonderful time with the current regime but, compared to other ongoing atrocities in our world in which the U.S. is a central player, they are doing better than most of our other victims who choose to disobey our wishes or resist our greed (see: Palestine, Syria, Lebanon, Crimea, et alia ad nauseam). "Great Leader" Kim is sincere about reunification. He sees it as a way to 'retire' and be able to live in the world like other people in privileged positions, to travel and enjoy life. He's a 'millennial', afterall, no? The harder that U.S. force is applied to NK, the more resistant they must become if not to be turned into vassals of the U.S. like so much else around them. This is CHILD psychology! Japan is on the wrong side of history, here, and honest diplomacy beneficial to Japan, as well.

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North Korea (Bukhan) has stated repeatedly that it will be willing to give up all nuclear ambitions if allowed to be treated as a free and equal nation in this world.

Your statement is patently false. Back in 1985, North Korea had declared it would accede to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, improving its access to civilian nuclear technology, with full compliance scheduled for 1992. However, when International Atomic Energy Association inspectors arrived, they soon found discrepancies with North Korea’s reported nuclear materials. Their attempts to visit North Korean nuclear sites were repeatedly barred. IAEA head Hans Blix proclaimed North Korea to be not in compliance with the NPT. Caught red-handed in a lie, Pyongyang responded with a characteristic defiance: in March 1993 it declared it was withdrawing from the NPT, and kicked out the weapons inspectors.

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"...agreement from South Korea right now under the Moon administration is meaningless. Moon's main political priority has been and continues to be appeasing Kim Jong Un. He put together the idiotic Trump-Kim show which accomplished absolutely nothing."

Apparently, not much attention to the detail of the "trump-Kim show" was given by this writer. This "show" was entirely trump's production. When the Stormy Daniels prostitution story was just beginning to tickle the newscasters, Kim saw his opportunity and, YET AGAIN, threw an offer of 'negotiation' on trump's desk and this time trump snapped it up like a naked person grabbing a towel when the door opens unexpectedly for the press blitz and noise-making that would, hopefully, drown out and obfuscate the nascent and undeniable prostitution scenario. Lots of glitter and glamor and photo ops and...noise...and handshakes and warm words and promises of future meetings....and then from trump, nothing. Months go by, nothing. Finally, pressure builds on trump for another meeting and he's forced to fly to Hanoi. Kim necessarily spends TWO DAYS on a train to get to Hanoi because he is SINCERE. What he meets when he gets there is the REAL trump who says, "Are you going to give us everything we demand?" Kim hesitates. trump jumps up and walks out. End of meeting. Back to abuse. trump's entire participation in the meeting was a LIE, a lie to try to obfuscate the reality of trump's character and, apparently, trump's handlers overestimated their guys' follower's 'morality' because sleeping with a prostitute while your wife is with child is OKAY for them. No ¡problemo! as one of them might say... And, of course, Christianity is big on 'tolerance'... In this story, the U.S. is the 'bad' guy...

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Oh really?

And obtw it would be more costly to station these same forces in the US.

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Yes keep up the pressure, it's a tried and true approach which has brought such great results...to increase weapons sales.

Well armed containment prevented the USSR from imposing Communist dictatorships on all of Europe, Japan and elsewhere. So yes it is a tried and true approach that prevented the west from being subjugated by the USSR.

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Well armed containment prevented the USSR from imposing Communist dictatorships on all of Europe, Japan and elsewhere. So yes it is a tried and true approach that prevented the west from being subjugated by the USSR.

Hmmm, what is the vintage of this paranoid thinking? I think it was the 1973 or 1974 Propaganda season when this absurd hype was really big but it faded pretty quickly when exposed to intellectual light. They were overextended and could barely keep their navy afloat. But America had DEBT and could spend on useless weaponry way past what the Russians could. Debt won that round but America is still in that debt so who really won? And why do the people who spew this paranoia upon us always seem to think "THE ENEMY" is superman or will easily overwhelm the most heavily armed, militaristic, and demonstrably hostile people on Earth? Does it seem that the other people on this planet want nothing more than to see America fail? Or is it what America does to those people that makes Americans expect the worst from everyone? We are all just trying to live some kind of life but there are those who must have control and they come in all polities on our world, the bullies and their thugs. And it is these bullies and their enforcement thugs who start wars with other groups of bullies and thugs and it is us who die in them. And while America is 'containing' the Russians, the Chinese, America's enemy du jour whoever, WHO IS CONTAINING THE AMERICANS? And, just speaking of the internal China/Taiwan controversy, are 'containment' and 'harassment' and 'interference in internal affairs' synonyms? And 'containing' North Korea? Look away and Kim will RULE THE WORLD? Why North Korea but not Vietnam also? Vietnam is becoming compliant. Koreans, on the other hand, are a bit more stubborn when being abused and Hanguk willnever 'give in'. But they would sincerely like to join the rest of the world as a good partner as long as it's not in slavery to America.

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I believe China could join this alliance and settle this issue could then be settled very quickly.

However it is in China’s best interest not to settle this so this will never happen.

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Oops. Trying to post on the phone does not work well for me....it should read as below

I believe China could join this alliance and this issue could be settled very quickly. 

However it is in China’s best interest not to settle this so this will never happen.

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Well armed containment prevented the USSR from imposing Communist dictatorships on all of Europe, Japan and elsewhere. So yes it is a tried and true approach that prevented the west from being subjugated by the USSR.

Look who's been drinking the kool-aid.

Meanwhile, CIA coup d'etat of democratically-elected leader in Iran, Vietnam started by false flag in Gulf of Tonkin, no WMD oh well we invaded Iran (thereby creating ISIS), death squads in El Salvador, etc.

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Hmmm, what is the vintage of this paranoid thinking?

The US is not going to suffer another ugly surprise like Pearl Harbor. The US had decades to prevent Japan from doing the things that led to WWII and didn't. In hindsight the US realizes its mistake. Now it takes foreign threats very seriously and does all it can to counter them. No apologies. Like Hitler and Tojo before, the old USSR and Mao very much publicly stated their goal was the destruction of elected democratic governments and their replacement with Communism. The Soviets built a vast military aimed at western Europe and Japan. The west was never able to match its size but had the edge in quality and that prevented the Soviets from doing anything foolish. Today it is China threatening the west, and Japan and you have to be a complete fool not to see it, or an apologist for the Chinese who supports them against the west. What is it? 9-11 was another wake up call that the US has to do more to defeat Islamic terrorism. Maybe you forgot that day but most Americans have not. I assume you are not American and do not even care what happened or maybe you cheered bin Laden? I don't have an ounce of sympathy for the Taliban, AQ or Daesh. They get what they deserve and again, no apologies. Beat them until they have no fight left.

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