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China is a military threat not only to Japan, but to countries within its immediate proximity, especially countries that are aligned with the US and are hosting American military bases. Should and if China does a preemptive strike against the US, I'm guessing it would look to take out the closest of threats first. But aside from conflict, we all know who respectful China is towards a sovereignty of a country and would use its military to strong arm itself to have its way in this side of the Pacific.

35 ( +40 / -5 )

I don't know much about history but I think China would prefer building a wall around it rather than go invade other countries.

-48 ( +11 / -59 )

Yes it is, both overtly and covertly. The most insidious threat lies in their long term asymmetric warfare/threat to pressure, destabilise and undermine their neighbours including Japan to bring them in to their sphere of influence and control.

36 ( +39 / -3 )

Complicated. They hate each other but they also need each other. Depends on how far the US is willing to go to protect Japan. But(!) there’s a country called Russia.

-10 ( +6 / -16 )

China is a threat to pretty much everyone. They're thugs. The CCP I mean.

42 ( +49 / -7 )

re: especially countries that are aligned with the US and are hosting American military bases. IF one looks deeper into China's history this threat goes way beyond the US bases aligned in countries hosting US bases. Many times in Asia before there was a US base China's attempt to take Japan or claim sovereign over it and other neighbors was common. IT has never stopped trying to claim sovereign over all of Asia.

2 re: I dont' know history: best learn it and quick.

17 ( +20 / -3 )

if you wanna talk abt agressive China and China as security threat let me ask one question:

how many wars have started China last say 4 decades?as from one of most powerful states in world i expect many?

truth is 0.

pls compare say with USA.thna lets talk abt who is more agressive and ho wmnay millions of casulaties left behind...

end of talk?

there is no reason why China need attack Japan especially if here have many US basis and also here is Russia around the corner as well.

let me be frank-this antichinese rhetoric is used to exuse on front of japanese taxpayers "necessity" of purchases of US guns,missiles etc and keep foreign boots on the japanese ground even 76 yrs after end of WW2.

thats all folks.

-40 ( +11 / -51 )

how many wars have started China last say 4 decades?as from one of most powerful states in world i expect many?

truth is 0.

Incorrect.

China invaded a free Tibet and annexed it.

China invaded Vietnam and got kicked out.

China has many times encroached on neighbors borders and killed foreign troops in the process. India, Bhutan just to name two.

China has invaded the South China sea's with illegal man made islands. Encroaching on the EEZ of a number of nations.

China has shown a clear desire to expand its borders at the expense of other countries.

China has long had plans for invading Taiwan which get regular updates to account for changing situations.

China is not America and is still officially classified as a "developing nation". And yet China is the biggest threat to freedom out of any single nation.

50 ( +56 / -6 )

well said Peter14!

41 ( +43 / -2 )

I don't know much about history but I think China would prefer building a wall around it rather than go invade other countries.

China sees itself as reclaiming its historical position of the regional hegemon.

It isn’t as outlooking or proselytizing as the US, but it isn’t as insular as you think.

21 ( +23 / -2 )

Of course, they are. There have also been strategy books and papers in the background, for years now. The danger is therefore not only what you see now, during parades, in HongKong, intrusion attempts into Taiwan, expansive measures in the South China Sea with artificial islands, runways, deployment of military, the same on the African continent etc., no, the real problem is what is in those papers and to be expected in the nearer or further future.

26 ( +26 / -0 )

China is never interested in war because it's not in their interests. The Chinese have experienced the Nanking massacre. They do not ever want that to happen again. war is never good for trade.

-43 ( +5 / -48 )

I see China's threats and landgrabs as coming from a position of weakness. The leadership knows that they are at their zenith right now and will only become weaker with the demographic cliff that will spell the absolute end of economic growth. Unlike the US, UK and other democratic countries, China has absolutely no option to attract and assimilate immigrants. I have never in my entire life heard anyone say that he wants to immigrate to China.

24 ( +25 / -1 )

It isn’t as outlooking or proselytizing as the US, but it isn’t as insular as you think.

You are right.

I expect that China will sooner or later demand it's rightful place in the world and I'm sure it is not wise to treat that as a threat.

-32 ( +1 / -33 )

I expect that China will sooner or later demand it's rightful place in the world

China already has it's rightful place in the world. It has equal rights to every other sovereign nation and it has a permanent place on the United Nations security council with a veto power. That is as much as anyone can expect. Anything more will be strongly opposed by all who cherish freedom.

31 ( +32 / -1 )

those saying China is peaceful or no war in decades.

Does Vietnam count?

Tibet?

Does attacking India at the border, many soldiers killed, is that peaceful rise?

Building islands with weapons, planes, missiles to challenge who? Poor Vietnam and Philippines?

Your China military budget is over 200 Billion. Nuclear weapons, nuclear submarines, hypersonic missiles, ballistic missiles able to maneuver to hit moving ships.

China is not just a threat... But a Serious threat! if they decide to be aggressive like they did with India.

31 ( +33 / -2 )

If China can dominate with trade, they have found little need to grind their physical boot heel into the faces of the people as Europe and Euro derivatives have found so attractive in our last few hundred years. The Chinese, as a culture, seem intelligent enough to get what they need without "the big stick" of massacre so familiar to us Westerners as our history with others. China could have made Japan 'Greater China' centuries ago but, instead, lent Nihon its culture, its writing, and a lasting value for honest education and scholarship. China has given to Nihon much more than Nihon has returned and, now, to return only suspicion and paranoia is probably not the best way to relate to the very bright 800 pound gorilla living next door. Gorillas are actually fruit eating, peaceable sorts until ya rile 'em... The greatest threat to Japan is America's threat to China...

-31 ( +2 / -33 )

Japans paranoia is a bigger threat than China.

-39 ( +4 / -43 )

China isn't a threat to anyone who isn't threatening China.

Stop drinking the anti China propaganda coolaid.

-43 ( +2 / -45 )

Of course the Communists are a real and present threat. Anyone who voted "no" is fooling themself, or a supporter of PRC. They are a threat economically, militarily, and of course through this incredibly deadly pandemic.

Japan is right to beef up her military to be capable of striking at China, and defending herself. The Japanese gov't should be speeding up the removal of Japanese companies doing business in China, Toyota, Sony etc, and hit them with crippling taxes if they arent out within a year or two.

30 ( +33 / -3 )

China isn't a threat to anyone who isn't threatening China.

China feels threatened by democracy, free speech, and Winnie the Pooh...

31 ( +33 / -2 )

Yes it is. Case in point China's invasion of Tibet. China's military incursion into India.

29 ( +31 / -2 )

Of all the neighbouring countries, not only China, but also Russia. North Korea is currently and was for last 10-20 years a marginal threat. But our government is pretty much ignoring Russia's threat. China is and always was predictable. Same with NK, they are just repeating themselves. But Russia is largely unpredictable. The reason why Japanese government is ignoring Russia is that they feel it's an European country and don't think of it as mostly Asian country. And if you take a map and look for Europe, it's on the other side of the world. But Russia being the closest neighbour, even closer than South Korea, just roughly 20km between Hokkaido and Kunashiri with it's Russian military base, i'd focus on that first. Of course, Russian government would dismiss it as witch hunting, but it was the same with little green men who were on vacation on Crimea and were definitely not Russian troops defending Russian speaking people against Ukraine government who oppressed them...

18 ( +20 / -2 )

TARA TAN KITAOKAJan. 25  04:58 pm JST

China is never interested in war because it's not in their interests. The Chinese have experienced the Nanking massacre.

So they are carrying out genocide on the Uighur minority. What have they learned?

30 ( +33 / -3 )

Hong Kong and Xinjiang province are just the beginning. I'm not trying to scaremonger, but If you think they're going to stop, you have your head in the sand.

They're going to eventually try for Taiwan and to make their ridiculous claim on the South China Sea a reality, the other nations' claims be damned. They're playing games with the LoAC, India, and all that fresh water. One day they're going to try for the Senkakus and as much of the Sea of Japan as they can take.

13 ( +13 / -0 )

Still how many countries has China invaded in the last 20 years? How many countries has the US invaded? How many countries has China put troops? How many has the US put their troops? How many Japanese has China killed in the last 100 years? How many Japanese has the USA killed?

-15 ( +3 / -18 )

Actually, South Korea is more threat to Japan but they need support and nobody will. One day, they will attack Japan in a worse way like their revenge which they are good at.

China and Japan, they look enemies from outside but they know they need each other for many things which have helped them last 50 years.

-14 ( +1 / -15 )

China depends on the USA and its Allies weaknesses. Japan, India, Australia, and the USA must stand firm for a free and respectful Pacific.

Hopefully Phillippinos and Indonesians too.

4 ( +6 / -2 )

China is NOT a threat to anyone, China know well the cost of a conflict on it economy and people, just look at it's past, never had invasion, never occupied, and never started a military conflict, China is too smart to waste it's energy and resources on killing people.

-13 ( +1 / -14 )

Robert Cikki, history shows a pattern of action. How many countries is China fighting in today? How many countries are the Americans fighting in today? How many first strikes has China done? How many first strikes has America done? As for South Korea, they really need a distraction now for their public. Perhaps a short victorious war is needed for the public.

-9 ( +2 / -11 )

Voting for yes, but I assume that China military threat and adventurism are often so subtle that their invasion into targets are harder to recognize without caution.

Perhaps negative voters here claiming "China never wants war" miss this point. Beijing is already active in engaging "silent" undeclared warfare across various domains, such as economic, cultural and virtual levels which were previously unidentified as battlegrounds.

6 ( +6 / -0 )

China wouldn’t dare. America would make a total mess of its cities.

0 ( +2 / -2 )

China is a threat to itself, or rather, the Xi regime that imprisons a whole people and snuffs out democracy in Hong Kong.

I think it has enough problems without sticking its oar in Japanese affairs.

That said, beware of wumao/50 cent types who claim butter wouldn't melt, etc.

2 ( +2 / -0 )

Re Aino, quote:  I think China would prefer building a wall around it rather than go invade other countries.

The problem is that this proposed wall of theirs redraws the map, going around the outside of several neighboring, independent, sovereign countries. The Chinese then have the problem of forcing the inhabitants' hearts to feel warm and grateful for such inclusion and protection. North Korea is already there, so no worries.

The hearts of the Uighurs, the Tibetans, the Mongols and the people of Hong Kong are not quite ready yet... and Taiwan is bracing herself.

3 ( +3 / -0 )

China know well the cost of a conflict on it economy and people, just look at it's past, never had invasion, never occupied, and never started a military conflict,

The above statement has no accurate information and is a complete fabrication.

China invaded and annexed a free Tibet in 1950-1951 war.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Tibet_by_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China

China invaded India in the 1962 Sino Indian war.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Indian_War

China invasion of Vietnam in 1979.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_War

Sino-Soviet border conflict 1969

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Soviet_border_conflict

As for other conflicts that China is involved in:-

War on terror.

Operation ocean Shield against Somali Pirates.

Northern Mali Conflict.

Syrian Civil war.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China

China is not a innocent player on the world stage and has been and is currently involved in military operations around the world. America fights for freedom around the world and helps those fighting for democracy and freedom that we sometimes take for granted. America is nowhere near perfect but it tries to help the cause of universal freedom. China does not generally fight for any reason other than to deny freedoms as it follows its views of Communism that are not the original version of that political system. In some few conflicts, like Somali Pirates and the war on terror, it supports world wide efforts to some degree.

Continued comparisons between China and America are pointless as they support and fight for opposing ideals. The fight for freedom seems to be ongoing as some nations deny basic rights and freedoms to their own citizens. Sooner or later they all fight to be free of oppression and many times they reach out for assistance to anyone who can help. Do not condemn the US for trying to assist. They get a lot wrong but they also get a lot right. At least they try.

3 ( +4 / -1 )

ossanamerika:

So they are carrying out genocide on the Uighur minority.

I'm not saying they're treated fairly, but like, you care about them? Gimme a break.

-3 ( +0 / -3 )

@ Peter14 Continued comparisons between China and America are pointless as they support and fight for opposing ideals.

NO! Absolutely wrong. They fight for exactly the SAME reasons, the psychopathic parasitic greed of the Humans in power and THAT is not the government. All governments work mostly for their elites, the most successful conscienceless psychopaths in their particular group. They owe their government positions to these people (in AMERICA, like anywhere else) and do what they are told to do. If there are economic interests on the table, something to be stolen, that is, ALL governments in a position to do so will attempt to dominate the resource. These "opposing ideals" you mention are just the lies they tell to outrage their people against anyone who they may target for their monstrous attentions so they can get their people to murder their targets without undue and possibly revealing discussion. We look at these 'ideals' and we see CLEARLY in history that they are lies which do not, have never worked as promised. Both the 'liberal (faux altruism)' side and the 'conservative (faux compos mentis)' side lead ultimately to fascism in our current Human state. Human knowledge and thought has very little connection to our actual Human behavior which we see is based almost exclusively on ENFORCEMENT of the wishes of the rich. Neither China nor the United States differ in any way worthy of consideration except their lies about the other. And those are largely absurd when told by the other. Tweedledum and Tweedledee. But, of the two fat twins of unplumbable depths of pathology who give threat to all around them, which one is most likely to 'reach out and touch ' you if you disagree with them. Hint: Not China.

-2 ( +1 / -3 )

China suffered the loss of tens of millions in imperial wars of aggression. I think they are interested in protecting themselves and expanding their influence but not in taking over.

-3 ( +1 / -4 )

No China is not.

-6 ( +0 / -6 )

Not an imminent threat. They have to finish off the Tibetans, Uighurs and other less visible (to the West) minorities first.

0 ( +3 / -3 )

China is a military threat to any country that's 'in range', and that would include Iceland, should a Chinese ballistic missile submarine be able to sneak up on it.

The balance is the threat right back on China if they tried something unilateral, and the deterrent factor that causes them from trying it in the first place.

So given Japan's ability for a razor-sharp focused retaliatory response on China and moreover the defensive umbrella provided by the US, then no, I don't feel that China is currently a military threat to Japan.

0 ( +2 / -2 )

Based on China's recent historical behavior in regard to Tibet, Hong Kong, the aggression and land grabs in the S. China Sea and E. China Sea, silencing undesirables from the Uighur people to writers by locking them up in concentration camps and on and on it goes. You'd be a fool not to keep a wary eye on a neighbor like this, especially if you live near a neighbor who behaves like this. China's got a lot of weight and it certainly looks like they enjoy throwing their weight around. Like a really big sumo wrestler surrounded by pygmies.

1 ( +2 / -1 )

Yet these are strictly internal matters. Americans are so quick to put their nose into others business. As for being a democracy there was a political coup in the USA. It did not succeed but what about next time? As for American aggression, Iraq, Afghanistan, Panama, Syria, Libya..... So which is the more aggressive country?

-1 ( +1 / -2 )

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