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Do you think climate change could lead to a greater crisis for humanity than COVID-19 or any other pandemic that might occur in the future?

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I voted "don't know." Given that all the catastrophic predictions by climate doomsayers fail to materialise - you know, "12 years to save the world" - it's hard to take their chicken little proclamations that seriously. Human ingenuity will see us through. That said, given how effective the fearmongering over COVID-19 has been at paralysing the world and that we've already seen some articles pop up on JT and elsewhere spouting how the economic downturn has reduced CO2 emissions (duh!), I wouldn't put it past the green-left movement to ramp up the crisis talk about forthcoming doom. All from the comfort of their climate conferences at 5 star resorts at someone else's expense.

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I wouldn't put it past the green-left movement to ramp up the crisis talk about forthcoming doom.

Your're aware that green politics are part of right wing parties, too?

There are plenty of conservatives who espouse green ideologies.

The future of the planet transcends what side of the political spectrum people choose.

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Your're aware that green politics are part of right wing parties, too?

There are plenty of conservatives who espouse green ideologies.

There's a difference between how conservatives deal with the issue - letting the market develop more efficient energy sources and recyclable materials, and they are generally not the catastrophist type. The subsidy hunters aren't true conservatives as they rely on government to throw money at them without the need to turn a profit, and are quite happy for the catastrophist message to continue as it justifies, to themselves at least, the ongoing subsidy gravy train.

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The market, eh

And here was me thinking that conservatives wanted to conserve things, like, you know, the planet. Life, the future.

Turns out they're just in it for the money. Who'd a thunk it?

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Toasted HereticToday  11:35 am JST

The market, eh

And here was me thinking that conservatives wanted to conserve things, like, you know, the planet. Life, the future.

Turns out they're just in it for the money. Who'd a thunk it?

Yep, the market. A far more effective and efficient way to get resources where they should go. Far better than the clunky mechanism of central government planning. Sure, it's not perfect, but no system is. There's room for regulation, but there's also a balance needed.

Most conservatives do want to protect the environment but at the same time maintain a good standard of living without central governments dictating how to behave and strangling them out of existence. You are aware of the enormous amounts of environmental damage that socialist governments have done, right? Just look at the USSR, Eastern Europe during the Cold War, and China under the CCP.

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I also can’t answer this...lol 2millions have died so far from COVID, so they aren’t affected by climate change in the far future anymore. Someone forgot to implement measures against a possible pandemic beforehand while broadcasting only climate change issues on all available propaganda channels. You should really a little bit more concentrate and work on current circumstances, issues, catastrophies. You can fight your beloved climate change topic and all non-electric or whatever non-ecological cars and vehicles later, when you have solved current problems and survived these ones.

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Probably yes. Covid is really serious now, but it seems we have a pathway out of the worst of it by the end of 2021. Even if it becomes endemic, its unlikely to be as severe as it is now thanks to vaccinations and treatments that are being developed now.

Climate change on the other hand will be with us for a long time, and even the rosier projections don't look good.

I voted "don't know." Given that all the catastrophic predictions by climate doomsayers fail to materialise - you know, "12 years to save the world" - it's hard to take their chicken little proclamations that seriously.

What specific catastrophic predictions raised by climate scientists have failed to materialize so far? I haven't seen any which said extreme catastrophic effects would have materialized by now.

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The climate is always changing. The extent to which humans can effect it is contentious at best. Our ability to change in ways we deem positive is almost entirely conjecture

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Yes. In my home country, the weather has been more erratic with hotter summers, stronger typhoons, longer dry periods to name a few. I think it does and since it changes slowly every year, people will hardly notice and just pass off weather-related issues to the times. Do your own google search on this and find out how many people are living in coastal populations that are susceptible to flooding and how many places are already constantly flooded with sea water that weren't traditionally as such? There's too many examples to mention but the climate is indeed changing and I have no idea how we can reverse humanity's effects. If our lifetime won't suffer for it, then the generation of the toddlers and babies today might.

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Voted yes but it is very dependant on what specific crises is referred to and what measures are taken to ameliorate the effects.

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If we "need" to reduce emitions below current levels (post covid) consistently then we are "doomed" in the absence of covid.

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kinda need food. If the effort to fight COVID were applied to emissions we'd be on the right track

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Raising carbon tax rate is actually the solution so emissions are properly reflected in the price of goods, but in the currently climate it's certainly a hard sell. The more dire the situation the higher the tax. But of course getting buy-in into that is the biggest hurdle of all.

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And of course the coordination of policy between countries, as we operate in a "one market" system. Good luck

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Coronavirus is actually benign as pandemics go - just very contagious, and no clear medication at outset - affecting not everyone (local quarantine, lockdown and mask-wearing withstanding). Watch out for combination with other ones (eg. unreported bird flu outbreaks around Asia)

Climate change affects everybody and everything - the ‘no-brainer’ phenomenon of the age.

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I'm still in my bunker waiting for the Y2K effects.

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Jaymann

The climate is always changing. The extent to which humans can effect it is contentious at best. Our ability to change in ways we deem positive is almost entirely conjecture

Considering we know what is causing it (man made CO2 emissions) and so we have a direct way of controlling it (reducing man made CO2 emissions) I find your remarks puzzling.

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Sven Asai

Someone forgot to implement measures against a possible pandemic beforehand while broadcasting only climate change issues on all available propaganda channels.

Bill Gates had be warning about both a pandemic and climate change, we should probably listen to him.

You should really a little bit more concentrate and work on current circumstances, issues, catastrophies. You can fight your beloved climate change topic and all non-electric or whatever non-ecological cars and vehicles later, when you have solved current problems and survived these ones.

We can do both at the same time.

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kyronstavic

Yep, the market. A far more effective and efficient way to get resources where they should go.

I agree. We should implement a carbon tax.

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Do you think climate change could lead to a greater crisis for humanity than COVID-19 or any other pandemic that might occur in the future?

This is a silly question as the 2 are intertwined. Pandemics are directly linked to climate change

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Aly Rustom

Pandemics are directly linked to climate change

How so?

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> How so?

Climate change leads to migration of certain species and causes them to come into contact with other species they wouldn't have come into contact with under normal circumstances. Disease then jumps from one animal to another mutating in ways that can lead to pandemics

There was an article about this subject a few weeks ago here on JT.

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Coronavirus, Climate Change, and the Environment

A Conversation on COVID-19 with Dr. Aaron Bernstein, Director of Harvard Chan C-CHANGE

Coronavirus and Climate Change – C-CHANGE | Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health

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Climate change and COVID-19: Does global warming fuel pandemics? (usatoday.com)

Pandemics, climate change, and the eye (nih.gov)

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Huge walls surrounding coastal cities will protect them.

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SandyBeachHeaven: "Huge walls surrounding coastal cities will protect them."

Ridiculous.

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@Smith. I know and agree!

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The coming ice-age will likely be a greater crisis than this "pandemic".

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We are but motes of dust on the planet. All mother nature has to do is shrug her shoulders and we'd be history.

In the meantime, misinformation will spread faster than the virus.

We can only police ourselves and ask that those who are lucky enough to own platforms and media sites, will halt the flow of lies or at least, stop enabling purveyors of said lies.

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If it wasn't for climate change we wouldn't have covid.

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I don't know. However, if the earth lived like an enormous creature which let us live, they might be sending us a message such as anger for environmental destruction. It might be the time to each of us listen closely to the voice of our earth.

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