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More support easing vaccine patent rules, but hurdles remain

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EU , please remove the patent protections ! Not doing so is a bit evil. The whole world is suffering.

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Allowing countries to make the vaccines is well-intentioned, but most countries are not able to set up the infrastructure needed to produce them, at least for the foreseeable future. Perhaps a few countries will be able to take advantage of the opportunity, but for most people on Earth, it would be best if the countries with the ability to make the vaccines decided to make enough for the entire world population.

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but most countries are not able to set up the infrastructure needed to produce them, 

Japan and China are struggling academically but they can produce a lot and help solve this problem before this virus mutates into something scarier.

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So if some bozo manufacturer copies the Moderna vaccine and screws it up in production, does Moderna have to go to court? Is it a Moderna vaccine if they don’t produce it?

In any case, I think the holdup right now in most places is not in production. India, for example, has not approved Pfizer, even though they are being offered tons of free doses, and Pfizer has a dependable record.

This sounds like a noble plan that hasn’t been well thought out. Also, this plan may be approved by the US but still be rejected by the EU commission. We’ll see.

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We already know that Russia's Sputnik doesn't really work because Russian officials have been caught getting vaccinated with other suppliers secretly. Also, Russia just signed a deal to have China produce their vaccine. It is really easy to use the Chinese version and call it Sputnik.

Basically, China will steal it then use it as a bargaining chip to leverage third-world countries in Asia, Africa, South America and Eastern Europe because those other countries like Russia do not have the capacity or know-how to produce it, properly!

As a company like Pfizer or Moderna, I would be angry because their stocks will tank if their hard work is easily shared with every trustyworthy and nontrustworthy company and country under the sun. Shareholders will be p'))&d, too!

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@Numan nonsense

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@Lamilly

@Numan nonsense

LOL! Evidence please!

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@Lamilly

@Numan nonsense

LOL!

Russia turns to China to make Sputnik shots to meet demand

https://apnews.com/article/middle-east-europe-russia-china-coronavirus-b041b3ad9d699de25a05c8f7ebcb4eb9

> A top Russian diplomat was caught secretly getting the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine, shunning his country's prized Sputnik V

https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-diplomat-pfizer-coronavirus-vaccine-shun-sputnik-v-2021-1

> China using COVID vaccine to push Huawei in Latin America, Southern Command warns

https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/national-security/article249986534.html

> Explained: How China is using COVID-19 vaccine as a political tool

https://zeenews.india.com/world/covid-19-vaccine-a-political-tool-for-china-2336604.html

Where is your evidence, please?

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Well the shares of vaccine companies did tank, but recovered, probably because this proposal won’t be approved in Europe, and somebody knows it.

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India already has a compulsory license concept under its patent law and I assume the main point is they want technology transfer to get know-how to actually manufacture the vaccine. At least with a compulsory license Pfizer would get some royalties.

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Pfizer/India story source, if anybody is interested:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/pfizer-in-talks-with-india-for-covid-19-vaccine-193533468.html

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Waiving patent rules is obviously more a bargain chip than a real solution, companies require months over months of optimizing processes just to be able to replicate the manufacture of a single drug or vaccine, and that is with the full cooperation of the original developer, so even if everything was made free to use today no new vaccines would be likely produced this year (at least not with the required quality).

Still, it is a good thing to put pressure on the companies, one thing is to recover an investment and even make a profit with a good health intervention that will save lives (people deserve to be rewarded for doing things properly the same as they would deserve punishment for doing them badly) but this is a time of need and it is not ethical to accumulate profits while the rest of the world is having to suffer.

Hopefully a good balance will be reach and both parts (rich countries and vaccine companies) will cooperate to solve the current crisis. Maybe by the next pandemic a better system will be put in order to have good vaccines at affordable prices and huge quantities as fast as this time.

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Maybe by the next pandemic a better system will be put in order to have good vaccines at affordable prices and huge quantities as fast as this time.

I would have to disagree. I think Pfizer, Moderna and Astra Zeneca did phenomenal jobs bringing safe vaccines to market in record time. The problem is incompetent politicians such as in Japan, and logistical problems in many parts of the world due to a lack of medical, transport and storage infrastructure. Japan really has no excuse and it is appalling that there is millions of doses of vaccines in storage in Japan as you read this and it is not being distributed. Blame the Olympics, but that is a red herring.

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The problem is incompetent politicians such as in Japan, and logistical problems in many parts of the world due to a lack of medical, transport and storage infrastructure. 

That is what I mean with a better system, production was very good, but predictable international problems made chaotic the distribution and third world countries were mostly left out of the picture.

A real international mechanism, decided beforehand to pool funds to support development and smooth out an equitable distribution system is extremely desirable for the (hopefully far away) next pandemic.

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Hasn’t happened yet and “they” have another card up their sleeves. Vaccines need boosters and don’t work for new variants. Basically they can sacrifice giving away the old one, knowing they can fleece with the next one.

I remember everyone had Software v1, then it didn’t work on programs so they had to buy Software V2....

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Stop hoarding and keeping the vaccines to yourselves would be a good start.

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If you want to waive your patents,just waive it. Dont ask others for approval

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the waiver idea floated by India and South Africa in October.

wonder what took the Biden and Macron so long et al so long. must've been chomping at the bit, waiting for the go-ahead from those "closed-door talks".

also wonder why Pfizer and BioNTech didn't donate vaccines to India, say, or Brazil, instead of offering support to those among the fittest and most privileged people on the planet....

all the usual suspects using The Plague for political and/or financial advantage.... business as usual.

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Compared with a month ago, Pfizer stock is up about 3 points to about 39 and Moderna is up about 29 points to about 160.

Numan

As a company like Pfizer or Moderna, I would be angry because their stocks will tank if their hard work is easily shared with every trustyworthy and nontrustworthy company and country under the sun. Shareholders will be p'))&d, too!

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@iraira

Compared with a month ago, Pfizer stock is up about 3 points to about 39 and Moderna is up about 29 points to about 160.

OK........

Well the shares of vaccine companies did tank, but recovered, probably because this proposal won’t be approved in Europe, and somebody knows it.

We know why, don't we? Ask Farmboy!

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After he developed the polio vaccine - one of the medical wonders of the 20th century - Jonas Salk deliberately chose not to patent it. His idea would have made him one of the richest men in the world, but he chose not to patent it deliberately so that any company anywhere in the world could freely produce his vaccine. He gave up potentially become a billionaire so that people could have easy and cheap access to his drug.

Today, he’d be called a socialist.

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