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Not all gloom: World leaders tout success at climate summit

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On the summit's opening day Thursday, Biden pledged the U.S. will cut fossil fuel emissions as much as 52% by 2030. South Korea, Japan, Canada and South Africa also joined in specific new emissions efforts timed to the summit.

One shouldn't be obfuscated by the large percentages thrown around alone. 52% on face value may seem like a large number (and compared by what the last circus administration did - it is); however, it's not at all clear what this number actually means, and what's being used as the baseline to determine progress. The US is using estimates it made back in 2005 as the base year (meaning there's more pollution, so the effect is minimized), while other nations are using 1990 numbers (means the opposite - and is viewed as a more aggressive approach). The Devil is in the details, and it's those details is what's missing in determining how effective Biden's approach will or won't be. Also isn't discussed is how or if the US is going to start eliminating its fossil-fuel subsidies, which isn't all handouts to energy barons (a tiny percentage of it does go towards less fortunate for energy bill aid); however, the main issue is that a subsidy is simply corporate welfare/socialism from the US Government that gives fossil-fuel creators an unfair economic advantage over renewables.

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If Biden succeeds in reducing US CO2 emissions by 52% by 2030 he will accomplish a reduction of less than one tenth of one degree Fahrenheit (0.07) by the year 2100. If will have forced people to pay more in energy costs, increased poverty over what it otherwise would have been, increased deficits by trillions, cost tens of thousands of working class jobs, shifted trillions in American wealth to China making Communist China the largest global super power, and reduced overall living standards all for an essentially zero reduction in global average temperatures. He must be senile.

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America's energy consumption is CO2 emissions at 79%. It will be a big blow to U.S. industries.

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If Biden succeeds in reducing US CO2 emissions by 52% by 2030 he will accomplish a reduction of less than one tenth of one degree Fahrenheit (0.07) by the year 2100. If will have forced people to pay more in energy costs, increased poverty over what it otherwise would have been, increased deficits by trillions, cost tens of thousands of working class jobs, shifted trillions in American wealth to China making Communist China the largest global super power, and reduced overall living standards all for an essentially zero reduction in global average temperatures. He must be senile.

Quite the prediction there. You wouldn’t have any substantial evidence or links would you? Or is it what you imagine will happen, again?

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To enhance your reading experience:

"Entry of the Gladiators"

(Julius Fucik)

Merle Evans, cond.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXxztZs82yE

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Not all gloom? But not all bright too..

World leaders tout success at climate summit? Don't ever mention the word 'success' than soon..

How many global climate summits have been held since the Kyoto accord (and later the Paris deal)?

What has been the outcome so far?

Has anyone done any proper evaluation?..

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While it may be embarrassing for the last guy’s supporters to continually be reminded of what a loser he was, the fact is the only way to measure an improvement is by comparing it to what came before.

Basic sense right there.

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"This is a moment for all of us to build better economies for our children, our grandchildren," Biden said Friday, standing at a lectern in the White House and facing a Zoom-style screen of listening leaders from around the world.

Yes, destroying your economy will help "the world". Meanwhile, CCP China and India are determined to grow theirs, unimpressed by Western virtue signalling. So what is this supposed to achieve?

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I feel the pandemic has made us all think about the environment and how we can live a sustainable life

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Bob Fosse

While it may be embarrassing for the last guy’s supporters to continually be reminded of what a loser he was, the fact is the only way to measure an improvement is by comparing it to what came before.

What came before was 4 years of correct political decisions (and without new stupid foreign wars), followed by the ongoing clown show that we see now. Your decision what you prefer.

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What came before was 4 years of correct political decisions (and without new stupid foreign wars), followed by the ongoing clown show that we see now. Your decision what you prefer.

Whilst “correct” has a definitive objectivity in some contexts, using it to describe political decisions is totally subjective. Comedy is also entirely subjective so “clown show” could be applied to anything really.

It’s really everyone’s decision what they prefer, innit.

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(and without new stupid foreign wars), 

My opinion is that the last guy didn’t start any wars because he had a very competent group of handlers. Much like when you see a toddler grab a pair of scissors.

Early days to call whether Biden will start any wars. Pulling all the troops out of Afghanistan is a nice step in the right direction though, wouldn’t you agree?

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Biden announced a 50 per cent emissions cut for the U.S. by 2030, which is nearly double the target announced by former president Barack Obama. Biden’s goal would represent a serious acceleration for his country, which so far has managed to cut carbon emissions about one percentage point per year since 2005.

https://worldabcnews.com/canadas-past-climate-promises-have-been-a-flop-could-that-change-at-this-summit/

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It’s not all gloom because the climate region is hyping a purported problem that they don’t understand. When you look at the science it becomes clear that the problem isn’t as bad as it’s made out to be. The predictions of gloom are based on models that haven’t improved at all despite decades of money being dumped into research.

Even a former top Obama scientist agrees that it’s being hyped:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-a-physicist-became-a-climate-truth-teller-11618597216?mod=djemalertNEWS

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