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U.S. to launch trade talks on COVID-19 vaccine distribution

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vaccine = trade, distribution and profit.

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News flash for multimillionaire Sanders, it seems that money buys things. These guys are always so willing to spend other people's money. If it is a moral imperative, Bernie, what double digit % of your personal wealth did you give to the cause?

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Sanders isn't even among the top 100 most affluent in congress. Trump the billionaire is also good at spending other peoples money. His recent wealth comes from writing very successful books.

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Youbare correct, so how much personal wealth have any of these folks put to the cause? Anyone? Nah, so much easier to talk about compassion and generosity if it doesn't cost you anything. Yeah, completely and utterly over these guys.

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Does the WTO yet have any similar talks planned with the IP holders of the Sinovac or Spuknik vaccines? Are the Russians and Chinese being asked by the UN or any major NGO to cough up their formulas, equipment, materials, and industrial processes to others?

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Of course not. Only the USA is dumb enough to act against their own best interests. All these world organizations count on that every time.

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Klain said the U.S. has sent India enough of the raw materials it needs to make 20 million vaccine doses immediately. India is battling a deadly new surge in coronavirus infections and deaths.

There are 1.4 billion people living in India and Biden offers up a mere 20 million worth of raw materials. Old Joe can’t get the vaccine distributed and people inoculated in the US, I doubt he will be able to help poor India much in their current crisis. Maybe Biden can throw in a few dozen of his personal double cloth face masks to raise the morale in Mumbai? That would be a nice gesture.

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There are 1.4 billion people living in India and Biden offers up a mere 20 million worth of raw materials.

If he provided more, you’d be pillorying him for not taking care of the US first, which you do in your very next sentence.

Old Joe can’t get the vaccine distributed and people inoculated in the US, 

This is not accurate. Biden can’t get conservative anti-vaxxers off no upsets because of their ignorance-driven fear.

The actual success of Biden on the vaccine is very different than your claim - notice how I cite to supporting evidence:

President Joe Biden hit his goal 200 million vaccinations in his first 100 days Thursday.

It wasn't a stretch: The country hit the goal with seven days to spare, and according to an NBC News analysis of Centers for Disease Control and Prevention figures, from the day Biden announced his new 200 million goal, the country was on a pace to reach that goal.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1255716

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Biden is new and has to fix his own house first before he tries to fix his neighbors’ houses. Still, he’s far better than Trump who’d have probably been thinking of sending sunlamps to India to zap Covid-19 with.

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India and South Africa have been bringing up this issue in WTO and Modi brought the same up in recent talks with Biden.

This should not be allowed with the 'humanitarian concerns' excuse. mRNA technology was developed and perfected after years of research in the West. If the IP rights are waived off there are chances that China will steal it without spending a penny on research, if they have not done so already.

The crisis in India is of its own making. No reason why other countries should take up the burden of solving third world problems. The aid that they are providing in these times when their own COVID case numbers are not coming down is more than enough.

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"Does the WTO yet have any similar talks planned with the IP holders of the Sinovac or Spuknik vaccines? Are the Russians and Chinese being asked by the UN or any major NGO to cough up their formulas, equipment, materials, and industrial processes to others?"

Russia has already provided free technology transfer of its Sputnik V vaccine to India. As far as the Chinese are concerned, their vaccines are probably based on stolen or hacked technology from the West anyways.

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Someone needs to say it. Demanding that companies and people work for free is morally objectionable. If people wish to volunteer their time and resources, that's completely different and up to each individual.

Post-pandemic, the prices for all COVID vaccines will go up 3-10x. Pfizer said they expect to charge $130 per dose, for example. Big pharma has a goal of "good enough" drugs, not cures. They'd rather we need a pill for $50 every month to slow disease progression for 40+ yrs, not a 1-time, $3, cure. When they create drugs, they have a plan to change the formula 5 yrs before the patent ends for each minor modification. They also seek out as many uses for a drug, sometimes questionable, so more people will buy it.

I feel bad for India, but they have nuclear arms! Any place with nuclear arms should be paying full price for everything. Repercussions for non-friendly actions. India was known for stealing patents for a long time. In theory, they stopped in 2005.

https://www.nytimes.com/2000/12/01/world/selling-cheap-generic-drugs-india-s-copycats-irk-industry.html

https://www.thejuggernaut.com/coronavirus-worlds-pharmacy?s=ck903zzk100uh0711fi57c6b0

People in the USA know that we pay the highest costs in the world for drugs and health care. That is part of our duty to keep medical science moving forward. We are capitalists and expect to be paid. We groan about it, especially me since the ACA increased insurance costs 4x, for much less coverage, and none of my original doctors have been in any of the plans we could afford post-ACA.

Sanders lives in fantasy land, not the real world. He doesn't need any savings, since his Senate job will provide a very nice pension. All his wealth should have been given away long ago to backup what he thinks others should do by personal demonstration of those ideals. Forced giving isn't giving. It is theft.

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