Posted in: The governments of many countries, including Japan, have said they will not make a coronavirus vaccine mandatory, but legal experts believe companies could order staff to get a vaccine, unless they have a health exemption. What's your stance on this? See in context
There is no need for empirical data of long term effects to be able to validly say that the vaccine is safer than the natural infection in the long term
You can't say that without the data, which some companies don't seem to want to release: https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2020/11/27/covid-19-vaccines-where-are-the-data/
And even the companies themselves don't share that sentiment:
“This is a unique situation where we as a company simply cannot take the risk if in ... four years the vaccine is showing side effects,” Ruud Dobber, a member of Astra’s senior executive team, told Reuters.
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And that certificate will be on PirateBay within minutes. I hope they can secure it.
That's a good point. There are so many privacy concerns with this
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What counts as false information though? Big Tech shouldn't be the judges of what counts as 'true' because the underpaid, overworked and traumatised moderators probably aren't the best judges on important topics considering how they're probably not qualified for a lot of things.
The Guardian even has an article denouncing the deplatforming of Trump, it seems some people have realised the sinister implications: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/16/the-silencing-of-trump-has-highlighted-the-authoritarian-power-of-tech-giants
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Does this mean the predicted explosion resulting from people being out over New Year hasn't materialised?
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I don't think the virus itself that is causing the suicides, it's the draconian response to it.
Also the media fear-mongering. I saw on twitter apparently a child in Ireland set themselves on fire because they thought they were going to get the coronavirus, which is so sad if it's true because they're unlikely to be affected by it.
I do think the Japanese government is handling it all better than most other countries, not this 1-dimensional & oversimplified obsession with 'cases', but they could do a little more to support people who've lost their jobs maybe
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Another sign of tax increase later. Definitely not a free meal. Ouch!
This is what everyone forgets somehow
Throwing money around isn't cheap, who would've guessed...
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Just stop buying Chinese stuff if you want to punish China
Us giving them money just fed the dragon
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If you don't want the coronavirus just lock yourself in the house and wait until 2025 or something. The rest of us will get on with life, it's not your right to lock us in too
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I might take it in ten years after everyone who for some reason trusts Big Pharma has taken it. I mean, this exact same process isn't unprecedented:
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More people died in Tokyo from media fear-mongering and lockdown-induced economic suicide than from the virus itself.
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I hope they weed out false positives and use a CT value of 25 or something because otherwise it'll probably cause unnecessary panic
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Starbucks should denounce the Uyguy genocide instead
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The amount of property destruction and violence carried out by 'the left' has been incomparable to 'the right' though. One MAGA march where the police actually let people in and didn't really smash that much up versus a whole summer of destruction? Come on, here's the audio of BLM commentary dubbed over the top: https://youtu.be/0MzpZsd7zuc
Now here's what DC looked like when BLM were actually there: https://youtu.be/qkew_ngvps0
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with security stepped up in Washington against threats by extremist supporters of outgoing President Donald Trump
Given the imbalance in violence between BLM/antifa and The Proud Boys, I bet there will be less violence than at the 2017 inauguration (which, like the riots in summer, seems to have to been forgotten about): https://youtu.be/SCu2gxVZ4E8
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To be fair American politics used to be much less partisan. It would be good to return to those times so stuff can get done. The Democrats also need to stop calling for violence like this: https://youtu.be/gKFrhb_njcc
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This is what happens when you get massively exaggerated fear-mongering that doesn't reflect reality: people see the huge discrepancy between how scary it's supposed to be and how weak it actually is then go about their business with the reality in mind.
The people on here might call them 'covidiots' and whatever but have you ever thought it's actually you who's the one that doesn't get it?
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the country's cumulative confirmed infections topped 300,000 the same day
Irresponsible scare mongering to not also give the figure for people who have recovered, which I calculate to be 295,711 (cases minus deaths).
So, about 99% of confirmed cases do not result in death. Also, if the people on here who are adamant that the virus is sweeping across the country like a tsunami but it's not being tested for are correct, then it's probably something like a 99.9% survival rate.
A virus so deadly you don't even know you have it and recover from 99% of the time
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Obviously their lockdowns worked so well
Even after literally welding people in their houses until they died as well
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Japan likes to boast it is a rich country, but this could result in 50% of the working population living in poverty
Such a weird thing to say when lockdowns cause more poverty, eg: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/16/yelp-data-shows-60percent-of-business-closures-due-to-the-coronavirus-pandemic-are-now-permanent.html
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People are complaining about the low number of tests but there aren't bodies in the street, are there? The number of serious cases even went down...
Let's hope the strategy keeps the economy afloat as well as people out of the hospital
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These figures are for the time before Corona virus.They are from 2019 to March last year so we cannot blame the situation ob working from home.
I fear it's going to be even worse now in reality then, just like suicides have killed more people than the coronavirus: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/28/asia/japan-suicide-women-covid-dst-intl-hnk/index.html
Of course, everyone thinks really hard about that when they scream for lockdowns
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They're not really being hit by the virus though, are they? It's the state of emergencies and orders to stay inside that are encouraging people to stay inside. You can't beg for everyone to be shut inside then complain about the effects.
I recommend reading into what you advocate for: https://ccpgloballockdownfraud.medium.com/the-chinese-communist-partys-global-lockdown-fraud-88e1a7286c2b
Prominent Lockdown Supporters Have Proven Unusually Indifferent to the Devastating Consequences of Their Policies
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What I don't get is why are so many people concerned about other people getting the vaccine because once you've had it yourself there should be no risk to you?
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"We've had COVID deaths in this nation but we are going to have more deaths from mental health, from people being locked away in isolation,"
Every country needs to go publish a cost/benefit analysis because people seem to forget there are other problems in the world. Lockdowns cause poverty, suicide, starvation, domestic abuse to increase amongst other things but for some reason they're left out of the conversation
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Sounds nice but we seriously need to keep China at arms' length
They're going to go on a buying spree now everyone else is desperate for cash and we have to resist selling out or we'll lose our souls to them if we're not careful
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This is good news, at least there's money coming in
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Does an SOE mean that businesses that show lower than usual sales can now get paid by the government for lost income? Is that why prefectures want an official SEO instead of the usual?
Yes, this is why I assume. The governor of Osaka actually ruled out being included only last week and I don't see why Kobe and Kyoto also need to be included. Case numbers in Osaka have been on a downward trend for months now too
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Another subject overlooked
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In this case, yes because the rules were so unequally applied. The Grand Ayatollah can call the destruction of Israel, no problem at all
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